Graffiti Art, Creative Careers, and Community Impact with Shawn Maguire
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Graffiti Art, Creative Careers, and Community Impact with Shawn Maguire

Wesley Knight 0:00
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Anika Jones 0:16
Let's get scratching. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the vibrant world of graffiti Park radio, where creativity knows no bound, we'll tap in with artists, educators, our proud partners and community stakeholders who believe in empowering the next generation of visionaries beyond the hidden alleyways, abandoned warehouses and local city transits, where artists are known to leave their mark, graffiti Park Foundation has redefined and reimagined the persona street Museum.

Dan Moloney 0:44
Good morning, afternoon, evening, daytime, nighttime, whenever you might be listening. We got Dan and Dan. Shanika Jones here, hello, another episode of graffiti Park radio. Hope everyone's doing okay out there.

Overlapping Voices 0:59
How are you guys doing? Oh, just great. Fantastic. Fantastic. Today

Dan Moloney 1:05
we are joined by a very special guest this. This individual has been with us from almost the very beginning. I would have it. Have to say, You all get to see his beautiful work if you're watching this, he's the man behind the lens. Mr. Sean, how's it going, buddy? If

Shawn Maguire 1:23
I was any better, I'd be guilty.

Dan Moloney 1:28
He's been How long have you been thinking about that response? I

Shawn Maguire 1:31
use that at events when I'm filming, great. It's memorable. And people are always like, Oh, that's so funny. You probably get

Dan Moloney 1:38
asked many times, how's it going? Yeah? Like, dude, I'm working. Yeah?

Shawn Maguire 1:42
I need a better I need a better response. But

Dan Bulgatz 1:45
if I was any better, I'd be a twin. No, I'm gonna steal that absolutely,

Anika Jones 1:49
taking that one. That is so good,

Dan Moloney 1:51
yeah, as long as you don't say another day in paradise. Because when people tell me that I'm like,

Anika Jones 1:57
I hate you, I wish you could, yeah, I was gonna say, if you can't, I don't know by the look on his face.

Dan Moloney 2:02
Uh, anyhow, we've been talking a lot about some random stuff. We have some rapid fire questions. I think these two have some questions for you, Sean, before we get started. Didn't,

Anika Jones 2:12
didn't. Well, I think you should go. We had a long discussion about how are some and let you start yours first. Okay,

Dan Bulgatz 2:18
so Sean just got back from Thailand. So describe Thailand in like 10 seconds or less.

Shawn Maguire 2:23
Really, really good food, perfect, humid weather and fun to go rock climbing. Ooh,

Dan Moloney 2:28
that was four seconds. Perfect, humid weather. Interesting phrase, wool out my

Anika Jones 2:34
hair would probably disagree earlier we talked about my rapid fire was like, what's the first album that you were given or that you purchased that was like, really exciting to you. We got your answer. You can give that answer, but I want to hear your top five albums,

Shawn Maguire 2:49
like first five albums,

Anika Jones 2:50
like you could do first five or just top five all time. Well, I feel like

Shawn Maguire 2:55
first five is more nostalgia. I think so too. So my sister and I both got Savage Garden, we both wanted our own copy, millennial or Millennium boys, two for two. She got the Fugees album, which I did not, which I was really sad about. Did she let you listen to it when I was ready or not?

Anika Jones 3:21
One liners.

Shawn Maguire 3:23
Wow. And then what else I feel like, maybe like the Chumbawamba album, okay,

Anika Jones 3:32
did it have other songs on that album other than the one hit?

Shawn Maguire 3:36
There was a couple, but nothing, of course, I know was as good as that. And then I don't like, maybe, like, Smash Mouth. Okay, I

Anika Jones 3:43
have that. I had that good one. That's pretty good. Yeah, okay,

Dan Moloney 3:47
you're a camera guy. I am Sony cannon, Nikon, or some Sony all the way. I'll stop

Shawn Maguire 3:55
you right there, really, yeah, Sony gang. Why Sony? It's, it's the one I started with, least a better cinema line. They do well in low light, okay? And just cannons kind of fell behind. I mean, they have nice color profile pictures, like with Canon. Like colors for photos is what I normally say, Sony for video. Okay, I get you.

Dan Moloney 4:21
I any other rapid fires for

Dan Bulgatz 4:24
Sean, all of the videos that you edit for us. Do you use iMovie Final Cut Pro Adobe Premiere? What do you use? What's the question?

Shawn Maguire 4:31
Clap for me on I'm on premiere. I'm paying for that subscription. Baby was right. I'm not happy about it, but I used to torrent it. And then finally they, like, upgraded where it was like, Oh, you gotta pay Yeah. There's no way around it. Despicable, yeah.

Dan Moloney 4:49
How dare you? Now tell us

Anika Jones 4:50
a little bit about the little, the not little, they're huge, actually, events that you do, of course, the different individuals that you record. The. Content that you're helping people great. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Shawn Maguire 5:03
Yeah, I film a lot of masterminds, trade shows, conferences. Yeah, lots of times it's for authors, entrepreneurs, people who have a community that are selling from stage often, you know, to like, learn whatever particular thing they're an expert in. Yeah. Vegas is a great city for those events, because a lot of people like coming here, and so been fortunate to, you know, work with a lot of different types of

Anika Jones 5:29
people. And he's like, being very modest about it. These aren't just like people at conferences, like you're boring, like you work for the whatever company to your lame conference it's made for. These are people with huge personalities, a lot of great backgrounds. What of all of these different content creators that you're seeing? What are you do you feel like you provide best for them, just footage alone? I know you make us look great. At least you're making me look great. What? What do you feel like you're providing for them that is your favorite thing to provide for their content?

Shawn Maguire 5:59
Good question. I mean, it kind of varies depending on the event. Sometimes I'm like, just kind of first man off the bench, contractor helping film. Sometimes they need help with editing. I like, you know, editing, like keynote talks, because then you kind of get to, like, re listen to it, and like, pay attention testimonials. Is always a fun one, because then you're meeting their, like, community members and, you know, making people look and sound as good as the value they provide on camera. Thank you for all. But, I mean, it's, it's never event is ever the same, yeah? So it's always different, but it's just fun to be there too. Everyone's, you know, inspired, uplifted, happy, yeah,

Dan Moloney 6:41
what got you into that? What got you in to that space? So

Shawn Maguire 6:46
it was about three years ago, is when local entrepreneur, realtor Ryan Pineda, his team needed help, and they hired me. He kept on doing the events every quarter, and I was just fortunate enough to keep getting invited back to help. And then through that, I realized, oh, there's like, a market for this with filming events and conferences. And then kind of started leaning more into that, and met more people through that. You know, when you're at the event and you're filming, it's, you know, I always say work begets work, so it's easier to find more jobs when people see you at the event filming for the event with a camera in your hand. Yeah,

Dan Moloney 7:25
sure. So

are there events that you don't agree to working or filming? Mmm,

Shawn Maguire 7:32
I normally say yes to a lot of things, unless the price is wrong, you know, if their budget's too small, but I always just want to help people so much as it is where, like normally, I try to find a happy medium, but for the most part, I mean, I've done all types of events, birthday parties. I haven't done a proposal. I've done weddings. Yeah, done. I did a divorce party. That was probably the best event ever, really, top of the palms the it's like 20,000 square feet, not the ghost like the building, yeah. And that was wild. Wow.

Dan Moloney 8:16
This is public radio, so we'll stay tuned for the chapter, the

Anika Jones 8:21
details, imagination on the

Dan Moloney 8:23
divorce party. Well, that's fun. So Sean, I've known you for less time than than Dan has known you, but almost mountain, almost the same amount of time. I know you're from Minnesota. Don't you know what? How did you get into videos? What's your like? Origin story in this creative space? We talked about some of the events we know, what you've done with us from a project perspective, obviously, this podcast, you bring us to life on on socials. How did you get started in all

Shawn Maguire 8:54
this? It's good question. I never really thought of it as a career. Like I took a video class in high school, and then the teacher told us the three jobs you could do are work for ESPN film high school sports or become a teacher. And I was like, Ah, screw this. And that was after making my hero video, and I picked like my grandparents and my sister watched it and cried, and I was like, I'm Spielberg. And then in college, it always just kind of like, followed me. In college, I'd made like, little fun videos with some friends. We wouldn't like post them, but it was as in a business fraternity. So we would make fun of, like, the pledges, and sometimes play those during the meetings, just like, hey. Like, watch this compilation of Dan being goofy. And then when I moved to Vegas, I worked at a startup, and the creative director was, like, really talented, do it yourself, or one man band. So I just, like, kind of helped him and saw how resourceful he was with just like, learning and figuring things out. And then that kind of gave me. The the permission to do it without being, like, you know, a film student or having a degree, and then quit working at that company, like just pre COVID, and that kind of just made me jump in the pool and go full time with it. Just been grinding at it since. Is that job? What brought you to Vegas originally? Yeah, so I was in LA prior for two years, working in production, doing like pa work. And then I was like an assistant for an actress on an HBO show, cool. And then, yeah, it just kind of kept on getting pushed to Vegas and, like, joined, like a startup house that was really good experience, really tough. We were pre revenue when I when I joined, I was like, on the founding team. I was really, like, the CEOs right hand man. So just wore a lot of hats with that. But cool experience, you know, got me out here, stayed. I always joke I was supposed to be out here for a weekend and stayed for 10 years. Yeah,

Anika Jones 10:59
my grandparents could probably say the same thing when you compare the market in LA and just what you were doing out there. How different is it from, you know, today, of course, it was a different time. But like, how different is it from, from the LA scene?

Shawn Maguire 11:14
I feel a lot different, especially then I mean, LA, you know, I feel like it's kind of losing its footing with being like Hollywood, all the places are filming, but at the time, like that was where you wanted to be, you know, is Hollywood. That's, you know, where they're filming. It's just everything's higher production, yeah, and more people on set, and better cameras and really good looking people, yeah,

Anika Jones 11:37
I guess that's a better way to to form. That question is, how did that, like, you know, high level of quality that you were giving out there help kind of form your craft here, it definitely

Shawn Maguire 11:48
showed me, like, a higher ceiling than anything I had experienced of just like, meeting people that had done bigger and better things. Yeah, you know, it's really shifted. I feel like to more social, you know, like people aren't, I know, at least in my world, not making movies. We're making social media podcasts and video podcasts and, you know, videos that will, you know, hopefully get the business or the person and ROI on there. Yeah, investment. Because that's why we all right, we do this cost money to make money. Yeah, exactly.

Dan Bulgatz 12:23
So. Sean, for all the viewers here, we've known each other now going on, I think five years, six years, we very first met at a kind of like a social media influencer coming across the states on a bit of a tour. What was our What was our meeting like, and how like? Tell the viewers a little bit about the story of how we met and how we've become such good friends. Yeah, listeners, if you're listeners, yeah, we don't forget about you. I promise.

Shawn Maguire 12:51
I feel I yeah, I remember. I remember meeting you and you telling me about what you guys were doing, and you had a hat on and curly hair kind of flowing out. And feel like we just connected on like, a purpose level, you know, like you you guys really wanted to help, you know, beautify Las Vegas. And I, like, really liked working with people that were creating more for, like, the common good over, like, personal ego, yeah. And then, you know, I feel like, with when COVID happened and it like, closed the schools closed down, that was, like, really an opportunity for you guys to kind of get in with the schools and start getting to work and just grateful that we, you know, both met then, and would have never guessed that we would have stayed in touch and, you know, started working together and become friends too. Yeah, yeah.

Dan Bulgatz 13:44
No, man, it's, it's been amazing. So Sean, we first met it. It was Charlie rocket. He had a dream machine coming across America tour. And Sean and I, we both had signed up as, like, helping videographers, volunteer videographers for some of the stuff that they were doing. And we were blessed to have met Chris Adams, who's also a mentor, and led into a slew of projects that Sean kind of talked about. And on that very first day when Sean and I are he's definitely sizing me up. I could tell, like, because I had like a little drone, and I just had like, a very simple camera, you know, like, I wasn't really there to take anything other than just simple shots, and I could see Sean. He was like, so how long have you been doing this? Or what are you I told him. I was like, No, this is just kind of like a side little gig. I've wanted to meet him. I had a buddy of mine his shabby mirror with red letters and out in Atlanta, Georgia. And he was like, No, you got to go out and meet them. And same thing is, after Sean and I had met that first time, I I just knew there was something about him that just had, like this, this charisma, this like, weird way of shooting. And honestly, Sean, I think what is your strongest, strongest skill, outside of your amazing videography presence, is your ability to pull people out and, like, single them out and be like, Well, how do you feel about this? Tell me about what we're doing, where we're at, how you're and it really lends people the opportunity to show. Show their personality a little bit more, whereas I don't feel like other people do, like they don't give them that platform to be themselves. And I think that you do a great job, and I'd be remiss to not tell you so So

Anika Jones 15:10
absolutely, thank you absolutely, absolutely appreciate it. I was thinking something very similar on the way over, like I see you capturing who we really are in everything that you post for us. And I just love that, because it's not a focal point of us hosting the show. It's always about the artists. It's always focused on the artist. And the very first one I saw, I was like, Oh my gosh, this is amazing. I love that you hear us and you hear our support. You can see that we're obviously in the room, but it's such a focal part of what we do to be able to showcase them and people to see them, and it's not all about us, and you've done an amazing job of that. I love it. I love it. Thank you. Yeah. How's

Dan Moloney 15:46
it feel sitting at the kidney bean instead of, uh, walking around it? I

Shawn Maguire 15:53
feel a little exposed, to be honest, it feels different. It's different, but growth lies outside the comfort zone. If you're watching this, do it anyway,

Dan Bulgatz 16:04
do it and you have his own masterminds. Yeah, yeah. It's gonna be teaching them and recording, right?

Dan Moloney 16:09
Yeah, for 1299 I feel

Shawn Maguire 16:12
like I should ask you guys questions. I feel like it's just one sided go for it. I'm too nervous, too. I don't know what to what is, what's on the agenda for the summer with graffiti Park? I'm curious. Ooh, any fun projects? Good

Dan Moloney 16:28
question. Always fun projects. We're usually a couple months booked out, so the summer has not hit that couple month frame yet. So our calendars are open. If you are interested, anyone could be interested. Yeah, I'm interested. Anyways, yeah, lots of fun stuff in the in the works. One of the cool things or developments that I can talk about is, as you know or may not know, we have this awesome partnership with boys and girls club where, in kind of collaboration with them, we are getting, we have two different kind of office space locations out here in Las Vegas, one in Henderson and one more central Las Vegas, at their Lindell location. And that building is going away. They've sold that building, and so we will be moving this summer and getting into a new space at the end of the summer, probably closer towards August or September, but that'll be a really exciting time for us, because that'll be our whole thing has been built on collaboration over competition, as You've seen us evolve, and so our previous office location was in collaboration with another company. This our current office locations are in a partnership with other groups. And so this will be the first time in the six years of us doing business where we're going to have our own brick and mortar spot. So that's an exciting update. Do you know where the location is? For the not entirely. We know some different areas. I don't want to speculate on record, but we have some we have some thoughts, and we're, we're in some talks with some folks, but yeah, and

Dan Bulgatz 18:12
while we are looking out for that space, something else that we have coming up that I would love to turn over to our Foundation team to talk about, I think, is the graffiti Park Foundation fest, which is coming up on March 10. Yes, may 10. May oops, may 10. Graffiti Park Foundation fest coming up may 10. 2025, that one is going to be at our Kish location, which is the foundation headquarters. And so that will be the second annual one. We'll have community partners there, artist vendors, food trucks, live music, live entertainment and a whole slew of different things. And so we'd love to have you out there. Shondo, for anybody listening, you're more than welcome to come out and enjoy we also have events tickets available on Eventbrite. If you want to check through is graffiti Park Las Vegas on Eventbrite, but we are still looking for community partners out for that one. And

Anika Jones 19:01
yes, and we, just like he mentioned, collaboration over competent competition, we want other community partners to come out and be able to share what they have going on, share how they want to connect with the community, and certainly how they connect with us. We would love you to be there, whether you're capturing it or not, but I think that's the huge part of what we love doing is making sure that we're all connected with our artists, supporting our artists and supporting art in schools, definitely supporting any after school, you know, dealings with art, because I think that's taking our students out of just a space where they don't know what to do with their time, don't know what to do with school, don't know how to regulate, you know, all the things that are going on right now a place that they can creatively express themselves and be able to connect to a possible career in the future is like, really what we're pushing for and any organizations, any community partners who want to come out and support that we would love to welcome you. Love to welcome you.

Dan Moloney 19:55
May 10 Kish location, Henderson, 10am to 2pm if you are in. Interested in attending only if you are interested, will

Shawn Maguire 20:03
there be, like, refreshments or snacks? Yes, there's going to

Dan Moloney 20:07
be some food trucks there. So there will be refreshments, accouterments, there will be some live music. We're in a very cool we're going to have, you know, 20 plus artists, other different vendors that you can see at a variety of other events throughout we're trying to bring everyone together, community partners, really just an event to highlight what everything Anika was just talking about what we're doing from the foundation fest. Tune into our last episode if you want to learn more about that. We talk all about of our programs there. But yeah, just an awesome it's at a Boys and Girls Club in a gym this side this time it's indoors. Yeah? Did that outdoors last year, all weather event, Mother Nature said, How about 70 mile an hour? Guess? Mother

Dan Bulgatz 20:49
Nature took our canopy tents and she moved them over there. Rain

Anika Jones 20:54
or shine, I will show you wind and hail as well. Curveball.

Shawn Maguire 20:59
Yeah, those curveballs fun.

Dan Moloney 21:01
So we'll be inside. Yeah, what are you doing? May 10, I'll be there. Yes, now we're talking. So Sean, appreciate you asking us about us, but I'm bringing it back to you. So back to the hot you've seen. It's a warm seat full of love. Okay? It's a little warm. So you've seen, from our very first project, capturing all the way to, you know, a collaboration last year with low speed. GK, you get to see our events. We're talking about this type of thing. I'm just curious, from your perspective, like, what does it look seen at look like from your perspective, taking a look and thinking about those events, from the first time for several you've interacted with to where we're at now. Well,

Shawn Maguire 21:45
I'm very proud of you guys. Thank you. Sheldon, when I first met Dan, going back memory landing, you know, like seeing him with those cameras, it was like, All right, these are a bunch of do it yourselfers, and we're gonna make it happen, kind of, guys. And I remember the first project that we worked on, because my dad was in town, and I was like, Hey, I gotta go film. And I was just like, so impressed, you know, with, like, how many people were there, and just like, the the care and attention to, like, putting down the tarps, like, all these things I didn't think about like, I was like, oh, there's gonna be, like, painting, put a tarp down. It's really cool to see you guys evolve, you know, to working with businesses too. And as you mentioned, pre show, Las Vegas Speedway, the motor speedway, yeah, that, yeah. So, like, you know, working with, you know, bigger walls and businesses and restaurants. So it's really cool to see that evolution, you know, of you guys just keep on growing, really, you know, because I know it hasn't probably always been linear and easy. You know, it's not like people just find you all the time. It's, you know, like we're talking, you know, there's a strategy to it. You know, you're doing outreach and asking for referrals, or getting referrals and sending out mailers, emails like, the fact that you guys been able to make it into, you know, as sustainable as it's been, is what, to me, is the most impressive, because I feel like that's the hardest part with owning a business is, you know, finding the clients, finding the work,

Dan Moloney 23:23
yeah, which leads me So, speaking of sustainability and owning a business, you obviously, you just answered my original question, which was going to be, what's the hardest part? Which you just answered, yeah, what would you say is the biggest lesson you've learned being your own self starter, running your own media delivery, content creation, type, studio, conglomerate, whatever you what do you call yourself?

Shawn Maguire 23:48
Like a mini agency. Maybe agency is what other friends call. It sounds fitting. I'm more of a lean team. How much time do I have for this

Dan Moloney 23:59
time in the world? We have six minutes, technically. But yeah, who's counting?

Shawn Maguire 24:05
I mean, for for the creative listeners out there, if I could give advice, it would be, you know, find like a mentor, somebody to learn from, because I didn't do that, so I just learned all the lessons the hard way. Business wise, I would say, Save a lot more than you spent, and w2 yourself early? Yeah, there you go. Do taxes on time. Yes. What else, I guess, expectation setting with clients, like, just like, determining, like, okay, when do you need this buy? I need you to review it within so many days of me sending it to you, you need to send a deposit. You know, I've learned, I've learned the hard way on all those things. So those are some of the ones that popped up. Heard

Dan Bulgatz 24:48
that. So you do a lot of creative work. You are one of the more creative people I've ever met. And it's interesting that we own a custom tailoring, mural brokering company, I guess. You, or you run a custom tailoring agency, we're going to call it, yeah. So that being said, you've had these wonderful different analogies of talking about, okay, well, if you want to go to in and out, and you want the double double, you know, or if you want the fly in Dutchman, like, is it going to be less? Is it going to be? What advice can you give to creatives that have to offer these tailored packages to them, to help them and slash, not get caught up in the convolution of the negotiations. I guess

Shawn Maguire 25:31
that's tough. It's never no call with any prospective client is ever the same, and their needs and wants aren't ever really the same. I've been trying to figure out how to productize my service, so I'm like, just giving you the double double or the Flying Dutchman, yeah, but it's been hard because, you know, sometimes people want something that's off menu. I already use Flying Dutchman, normally, that's the menu item. Okay, so you offer them the double double or the hamburger, and then they want the Flying Dutchman. That's how I should have said it. Um, you know, I think figuring out what you're comfortable making, you know, based on the time that you're going to allocate to it is, like, kind of the safe and basic way that most people kind of go into it, like, Oh, if it's going to take me 10 hours and I want to make 50 bucks an hour. That's 500 bucks. And then math, yeah, thanks. I passed and then figure out I would say, like, systems, you know, so like, if it normally takes you 10 hours on the first run around whatever you're doing, like, filming, editing, or, you know, painting is there a way where you can reduce the amount of time spent doing it? Okay? So then you can, you know, increase your hourly per se. But you know, just asking a lot of questions has always been helpful for me. So asking them, you know, why they want video, like, how many videos when they want to buy? When do they want to film? What are they going to do with the video? What platforms do they need? Vertical or horizontal? So I guess that'd be kind of my off the cuff, top of head advice. But productize as soon as you can, if you can, just, you know, have one thing that you deliver and deliver really, really, well better than anyone else, yeah, just like in and out, you know? Shout out, yeah, shout out, in and out.

Dan Moloney 27:27
We also, speaking of shout outs, shout out, shell dog. Hey,

Dan Bulgatz 27:30
shell dog.

Dan Moloney 27:34
Daniel's Dad, we said we were gonna give him a shout out pre show. So there he goes. He probably won't watch.

Shawn Maguire 27:42
Got to make him watch 27 minutes. 2735

Dan Moloney 27:46
Sheldon, we're here for you. You know, you should ask him about workers comp cases. We got a couple minutes less or left, which is crazy. How fast these episodes go by. If, if anyone's interested in taking a look at your portfolio, having a conversation with you, they want to, they want to rebrand. They want some more pizzazz in their media prowess. How can they find you? I

Shawn Maguire 28:14
am on the interwebs, Instagram. My name Sean, S, H, A, w n, then McGuire, M, A, G, U, I, R, E, just like the movie. Jerry Maguire, nice. So that's my handle,

Anika Jones 28:28
Sean. You could be like Tom Cruise's cousin. Yeah,

Dan Moloney 28:31
easy, yeah. Sean does. He's a he's a beautiful specimen. He has taken our story and help us tell it to other people. So it's been an honor having you on brother. No, we did not have a last minute cancelation. You are always a priority in our book. And As Sean mentioned, if you did enjoy this episode, you can find us, or you want more information, you can find us at graffiti Park, underscore LV on Instagram, or at graffiti park.org and if you can't find Sean McGuire, you can reach out to us and we'll get you connected with Sean McGuire. He makes these beautiful episodes come to life, among all the other projects that we get to work with him. So it's been an honor and a privilege. I also just want to say it's awesome to see just the similarities between creative industries. Yeah, and it's been a it's been a fun conversation. Art is universal.

Shawn Maguire 29:31
Thanks for having me. You're welcome. Goodbye. Everybody.

Dan Moloney 29:33
Have a have a wonderful whatever. The rest of your day, week, month. It'll be a good one. It'll be good, maybe in paradise, we'll see you.