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Good morning. Good morning. Thanks for having us or afternoon or evening. You know, whenever you may find yourself tuning in to graffiti Park radio,

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we're gonna have a fun episode. We've been having a good time. Been having a good time hanging out. This is our first episode where it's dark out. Shout out to daylight savings or not if you're not into that. Yay. Seasonal Depression. That's fantastic. Oh, here we are. Here we are. So to combat that,

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it's cold, yeah, it's chilly out. First episode in a hoodie, also, which is weird, because the last one was in October, so yeah, but it was still like 100 degrees. It was actually Las Vegas, Nevada. Anyhow, you got the dance here, hey. Oh, and Miss Anika, hi. And today, we are welcoming a very special guest. Miss Becca. Oh, hello. How you doing? I'm well, how you doing? I'm doing good. How do you for the guests, how do you how do you pronounce your art name?

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I am Becca Goodman, and my art name is Bucha. That's how a chicken says my name, Bucha. Good you can also call me Bucha. We just had

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to get going with that.

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I thought that was an appropriate way to kick things off. We're gonna start off with a new segment, graffiti Park radio. We're calling this rapid fire question minute. I was gonna say hour, but not now.

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I also, for the record, got banned from tongue twisters from my team prior to this episode. So hey, I'm still happy

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to

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be here. Um, all right. Favorite Canvas type, wall, normal Canvas, or unique canvas, like shoes, purse, something weird, something weird like a bowling pin, bowling pin. Do you have a favorite weird canvas that you've done? No, I have commitment issues

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like it, all right, all right.

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Favorite marker brand you got poscas, Molotov or Montana? Oh, what am I doing? Probably nine times out of 10 a pasta, okay, but depends on what, what surface area, okay. Oh, that makes sense. What if you're doing like a brick wall? Definitely not my past. Oh, is that like a like a tip situation? It is

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heard that. All right, ladies,

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last one. Unless Anika wants to interject, I'll interject. Speaking of ladies, I like that. This is the first time we are having a lady sit down with us today for graffiti Park radio. I wanted to ask you, because I know I had to get into the zone. I said, You know what? I'm on this female empowerment trip, which I always am. Let me play my female playlist with all my girl power rock. What song? What type of music gets you in the zone? Nine times out of 10 I'm listening to video game. She'll hop remiss. Yes, kind of stressful. I just need to zone out, man, can beat 12 again, but with a cool beat, with a cool beat, I think usually we're at okay. I think that's where we're at with music now, traffic here. No, that is going to be like 90s gangster rap.

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It's traffic's fun here, yeah,

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that's it. It's a great time, actually. All right, last set of questions. Rapid fire, three words to describe graffiti Park, uh, colorful, fun, helpful.

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Okay, it's our new segment brought to you by graffiti Park radio to kick things off. Well, Becca, we appreciate your time. Last minute, coming on, hanging out with us,

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I guess, start us off. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Well, I do hear art in Las Vegas. I've done a lot of stuff with you guys. I think I have. I wrote that I have 10, I have 10 murals with you guys that are standalone. And so that's not just the projects there, but I do a lot of like live painting downtown. Do a lot of stuff with Clark County. I just had a workshop yesterday. So doing a lot of art, I do art that is, I am a working artist. That's pretty much what I do, and that's usually how I define it.

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I'm a working artist. A lot of artists have other jobs, but at this point, art is my job. I teach art. I am always doing art in some capacity.

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There's a lot of layers. I want to unpack that answer. It's like the best answer we've gotten. Usually it's like a lasagna, yeah,

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yeah. And the more layers the better in there. I can't lie to you, I'm not a cheeser, but I will ask

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how, what inspired that lasagna for you? What inspired that little spark to do a little bit of everything in art, money?

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Oh, cheese. That would be the cheese on.

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No, it does it. I hate to say that, because being a working artist, that you got to separate like the art that you're doing to sell versus like process art I'm doing that I don't show any of y'all. You'll never see that art, that art's for me, but like, the layers with why I'm in so many different pies is just to be on the scene like you have to know a lot of people like in town to be in shows and just stuff like that. Yeah, meet. A lot of people show up to events. Just do the thing. Yeah, like this, yeah,

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I like that. Be open. Wow. Do you have a favorite like you meant you've mentioned to that point that you're in all these different facets and different things. Do you have a favorite one that you like pursuing? No, I have commitment issues. No, we're doubling down on them. Not at all. No, I haven't met a medium I didn't like yet. Like how I really got into art and decided that that was something that I wouldn't I wouldn't like the artist growing up like I didn't be an artist until I was an adult and I took a sculpture class, and that's what really got me into it, because that was, I don't know that's what really got me into it, and made me be like, hey, maybe I'm kind of good at this. And when was that, and where was that? That was a long, long ago, back in that Texas we were talking about that was I worked at a college, this college, at tvcc, for like, 10 years. Okay? And when you work at a college, you can audit classes. And so I took a lot of art classes. And I took art classes with people who had been doing it for like, 10 years, okay? And this would have been 10 years ago, around 2010 when I God, what is time 15? I don't want to talk about

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it anyway, but no get and then getting into that class, I was really intimidated, because they were really good 2d artists, and then I got in that 3d class, and it turns out I was kind of good at that, and they struggled with it. And so I was kind of like, hey, maybe I'm good at this, and maybe I might, maybe I should try. And so that was my first love, and that's actually what I did for a long time before I got into painting.

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And was that as I'm sorry to cut you off, was that as self found, or was that because of some of the professors and some of the teachers there, or what really caught your attention?

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I was trying some stuff. I took a photography class too. I was just trying out different like art stuff. I went ahead and got my Associates and was very responsible about it, and didn't take any fun classes. And then I landed that job, and then so I started taking fun classes, like my free time.

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So that Job was unrelated to art completely. That was, that was student support services. My degree is an IT. I have commitment issues.

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I don't know what I'm doing, but I love that. You say you have commitment issues, but the truth is you have multi faceted talent that is just unbelievable, that it's this new, like you're saying, that you just got into this, but your digital art is incredible. Your stickers are like, all over my house, all the things that I own. I love this film element that you have that's like a spooky but almost like a creepy creep, yes, vintage images that are really like a surreal, sort of

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surreal pop kind of classic. Like, where did you draw that interest from? Just kind of, probably pop, pop culture, absolutely, a lot of cartoons We're from the same kind of era I draw inspiration from a lot of the things you do, too, this horror element, these like sexy women with the dreamy sort of vibe to them, but just very strong element. Do you feel like that's coming from inside, or just images that you saw that you like, like, where is that I like, John, pretty girls, like,

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like, I have, I wish I have, even before, like, I was the artist. I've always liked to draw, but it wasn't like anything serious, yeah, but like, I used to draw like girls a lot. It's hard for me to draw boys, too. It's a challenge, yeah, so it might be a cop out.

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I don't

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know. They're fun to draw people like them, so it's, I've got a really good response with them, so I've just kept flexing that one. But I don't know, I had lots of different styles. I think I'm going to do an impressionist style for this live painting. I'm kind of bored with the pin UPS right now. Yeah, you have a lot of different elements that are really great, really great. You have a pair of paintings in our gallery, and if you're interested, you can tell you where to find that here, but you can find that at graffiti park.org,

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what?

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Do you know which one I'm talking about in their hair? Yeah, that's the hot girl summer. Hot Girl summer. Yeah, they're the pool girls. The pool girls. They're like, hair is the pool, right? So those were fun. Those were fun. I like making silly art. Just fun art, mostly. So what do you you mentioned there's art that you create that's like for yourself that you don't share. Is there a particular medium, or is that all those like you were saying? Is that all those different mediums as well? And I'd say most of that is honestly pins like this, like because I used to do that a lot, like those multi click pins you get when you're a kid. I'd say most of the art that I kind of do myself, and I don't show most people are click pins, because you can do those quick somewhere in the moment. Yeah, do you have any like, sort of routine to that? Like, is that something you're like, Oh, I sit down once a week and do stuff like that? Or is that I barely have any routine in my life? Like I am struggling to do laundry.

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I appreciate the honesty, yo, like i have i That's one of my goals, I guess, is kind of getting a little bit more serious about this, even more so serious with more routines and stuff. But being open and flexible like that has lent me some opportunities that sometimes having more of a schedule can't give you Sure. So it's got, like, you know, pros and cons and stuff, but no, I paint every day because, like, I paint at work. I paint like, it's a struggle for me to sit down and want to do from art for myself. Like, that's something I gotta, like, work on in 2025

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nice, God, that sounds

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Yeah, I think that's, uh, isn't that the year that Terminator comes from.

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Both of those years happened, like 1997 I think was when they became aware or something. Anyway, we

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have to come back. Yeah, that's great, because I, you know, like Arnold, he came back. He came from 20, like 40 years. Oh, where he came from? Okay. Oh, dear God, that's where we are. Now, I thought you were just talking about when they became we're not fighting cybernetic organisms. We're doing anyhow, yet, sorry, nerd and out there. That's okay. This is a space for that.

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Absolutely. That's fine. Okay. I want to jump back, though, so

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you're at college, you're taking all of these classes. What was the next step in your artistic journey? Or what was the next breakthrough that you found where you're like, Oh, this is something that I could do professionally and full time. Well, we moved across country, California, and I changed careers. I started working at an art studio. It's an independent one. I think they're still there,

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but it was in San Mateo, okay? And I started just as like a receptionist type situation, where manager and I had to schedule people to do the classes, and I messed up and didn't schedule someone for a class. And so that was the first class I taught.

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Like, I'm not really scared of talking in front of people or anything. I'm actually more scared of this because I make weird faces and sounds. She did inquire on if she had to show her face, do you want to come on? She said, Do I have to show my face, and for those of you listening, we do record these with the video, yes, to eventually show so there's a lot of weird faces and sounds going on anyway. But then people started paying me to teach those to do art. And then I decided I could call myself an artist. And then moved here, and I still do that. I still teach art to adults and children, and that was mainly the left turn that caused that. But Vegas has been good to me. This is a really good art scene out here. There's a lot of welcoming people, pretty much every aspect of it,

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every place. There's a lot of open calls for art here. There's not a lot of open calls in every city, you know. So there's, I would say the opportunities here just kind of allowed me to continue it like after the pandemic, when everyone went crazy

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and I got to move here, when there were no cars on the strip and horses were that

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was fun. I was born around that time. No, go ahead. That's we're not gonna talk about

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that. We're like the same age,

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divorce and buggy,

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the reminiscing. I like it. What challenges have you you talked you know, you made that change. What challenges have you found as you're paving this artist's journey for yourself in terms of either maybe create a process, like getting blocks, that sort of thing, or

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probably like finding a style, or just giving up, that you don't have to find a style to like be an artist, or push art and do it, and that maybe you just feel like a style on.

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On Tuesday, like, I got really hung up on, like, trying to figure out what kind of artist I was going to be

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or and I I would beat myself up for not being like a good watercolor artist, or like graffiti artist, like working just in like spray paint, or just purely a ceramicist, and be like, jack of all trades, master of none the whole thing, and just stop kind of beating myself up about it. Yeah, it's the main thing to get over, like, and just straight calling myself an artist. It took, like, a couple of years to where people were paying me for art, where I was like, I guess I

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am. Nobody comes and tells you, when you become there's no ceremony or anything for that, because even if you have a fine arts degree, doesn't mean you're making money with art. Like I know a lot of Uber drivers with fine arts,

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I don't know absolutely well, you're showing the essence of what an artist truly is. And you know she's understating

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her talent. The portraits are unbelievable. You have three portraits of these women that are just so breathtaking. You can really see the emotion just in the background. You can see the emotion in their eyes. You have acrylic paintings that are incredible, that are very, you know, pop culture related for millennials and all alike, right? And then, of course, you've got these digital artwork that is just amazing that you're doing. Amazing that you're doing with stickers and things like that. What do you and your murals that are incredible? And actually, at my school that I absolutely love, two at Yes, yes, she's very proud of she always reminds me that it's not just one. You always remember the first one, one resident artist. What do you feel like you are channeling now the most, and that you want to, like, work on solely, and you're kind of pushing away from so much, I guess, my next, my next real big art goal is I want to show in LA, nice. So that's nice.

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I'm going, Yeah, come on, like, come to my gallery opening in LA. I just want to, like, say that out loud, like, somewhere, because New York's a little too big and scary, but LA is right over there. All right, let's do it. You said it. You said it on air. That's a big thing that, like I have coming up, that I really want to focus on

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some calls for art out there.

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I've been expanding the cowgirl series that I had that's going on a zap box, which I'm pretty excited about so I'm stoked about that. But those are, those are some things I've got, if I don't mind, if I don't know what a zap box is.

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Can you walk me through that? That's that is through Clark County where we go out and paint utility boxes. And mine will be on the corner of lamb and Las Vegas Boulevard. And I'm super stoked. And yes, I'm going to paint a pretty girl on it. What type of medium are you using that's going to be acrylic and spray paint, as per the rules. Heard that. What is it you had mentioned? Like you have this goal to have a show out in LA what does it look like as an artist to set a goal and then to start to work towards achieving that. Like, is there a certain process that you undertake in order to achieve certain goals being a full time artist? Oh, well, you think about it a lot. I'm not kidding. Like, just a lot. You got to think, think about it. You got to do the legwork too. Like, you got to set yourself up to be in that position. Probably the biggest thing I could tell to anybody who wants to get out there and start showing art is to go out and meet artists. Like, I don't know that's the that's the thing to be thinking about is like, how, how are you going to get there? Like, you kind of need to go out find the people that have done the thing you want to do. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go look at people who are shown in LA, well, How'd they get there? And just like copy that to the best of my ability, while also giving it my own flair. Because copying the wrong kids,

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be yourself. Be yourself.

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Be unique, like everyone else.

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No, I really.

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But no, like, I don't know. Nobody's gonna buy your art in your kitchen. You

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you're gonna have to problem. There is social media and stuff, but I gotta tell you, I tried that one. I meet people, dude, go out and meet people. That's probably the best way that you're gonna find success with art, that's that's the catalyst, really, I'd say, making connections with people,

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which is, I think, for the artist community, sometimes a tough pill to swallow, because artists can be such like a personal experience. And a lot of artists, at least in my experience, are not necessarily the most like outgoing bunch, and they're kind of introspective, and what's the word? I'm looking introverted.

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And so I think that's important advice to listen to. Is like, go out there and get a part of a community. Graffiti Park is a fun community. I came to an open call. Like, just No, you know, and can I ask? Is, what was it like for you?

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You as an artist, almost a full time artist, when you came to Vegas and to this, to come to a graffiti Park event, and what was it like getting involved? What was the first one? The first one was Ron's own, and I was so scared of that spray paint that I did most of it with house paint. And then the only spray paint on that one are the purple lines that are going around the planets and stuff. But no, it was great, like, I came back.

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No, it was, it was again, great experience. That was one of my bucket list things, a mural that was on my like artist that was one of my goals, and so that helped me achieve it. And I don't know if y'all know it, but y'all got me my job, like, because I met Samir out there, and he got me that that interview. So Wow. Like, amazing connection to meet people you heard it here.

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Like, you gotta, you gotta do the thing.

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And I don't know, separate yourself from your art a little bit. That's really hard to do, but you like, absolutely have to, if you want to make a living with it. What do you mean by that? If you want to make a living with commercial art, like, if you want to do commissions for people, if you want to make bespoke art, if you want to go that type of thing, you separate that from, like, your personal your process art, like, if somebody doesn't like a piece of that. It does not mean they don't like a piece of you. Boy. That took me a long time to get to that point to feel that. Because, like, when you're an artist, you're like, here's my soul. Do you like it? You know, like, so it's try to make that art for yourself and like, if you want, you want to be successful. Like, think of this more, and it helps me to think of myself more as an artisan sometimes, sure, like, whereas I'm using these skills that this other stuff I do for myself helps me with but like, that is separate and that's for me, or maybe if I have my personal goals with it, I might feel some feelings about it, but like

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a mock up gets rejected. That's not you, that's okay,

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and you'll get more jobs, if you like, come back and you keep, like, resubmitting it. So that's just like, chin up. It's not you. It really isn't. Most people have no idea how long it takes to fix

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it, so keep that in mind too. Any words of advice for artists that are struggling with accepting that or finding even their own lane to find clients to come and seek them out for their specific kind

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of art. That's, that's hard. It is hard, like, I'm not gonna lie, like it's, it's, it's a lot of hard work, and it's luck. Like, I'd be lying if some of it wasn't, like, a part of it being, being luck. But if you want to get into shows, you want to do something and be noticed, do something different. Like, that's pretty easy. Like, if you can't find a style and be different, like, okay, for example, like, when we had to do, when we were doing, what was that? The NFT convention, we were live painting. Everyone else had their sideways. And I made, I made, turn mine with, like, some bricks so that it would be up and down. Like, if you want to, like, set yourself apart, just turn, turn it different. You want to, Hey, kids, you want to get into a show do a 3d piece, because everybody else will be 2d like, that's how I've gotten into. Half the shows I've gotten into is because nobody else is submitting sculptural work, because there's, like, not as many people that want to do that and put in the effort, but like, if you, if you really want to, like, do that and just get noticed or whatever, be obnoxious.

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It works. It worked for me.

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We were having a similar conversation with Cody not on air. Cody Womble, who was also on graffiti Park radio, he is not obnoxious, and he's not obnoxious, no, but we were having a conversation about that, that idea of separating yourself, one of the things that really stood out to me was he was like, you know, and with graffiti Park, we're trying to work with up and coming artists, and that's why we try to kind of structure these conversations as informative and educational in natures for those listeners. And one of the things he said, and I want to come back to that, is it's some artists need to be told no, like, no, that's not going to work. Nope, that render doesn't look good. And to your point, I think there's no real way to Dan asked you the question, like, what advice do you have? Like, there's no real way. There's no advice to take. It's you have to get reps in being told, No, yeah, and being you just have to, like, start framing those rejection letters. Like, don't

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just keep keep going. Like, and I don't know, make out your process art. And, like, a lot of times we act as like this, like, insulation between an artist and a client, and Dan and I get told, No, a lot like, no, that's not gonna work, you know. And we're people, people, so we'll go to the artists like, Hey, how about we tweak it a little bit? But that's not how the client told us, and that's not personal and like, and.

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So I think

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that's a very often recurring theme in these conversations that we have purposely having with full time artists and artists that make a living doing those different things. So that's why I'm honing in on that. Because I think that that if you can learn that sooner, that will set you apart. Well, not only that, but like, if you start with no, you can get to the Yes, so much faster, especially if you have a client where you, if you give them something and they're like, No, I hate it. You're like, Okay, well, what don't you like about it? And then they point out certain Okay, well, what elements can we take or pull out or switch in to get to where they you know, feels to where it feels right, to where it feels well. And so I think for artists, it's important to hear like again that, no, don't attach it to yourself, but use it as a propeller forward to getting to the finish line. Yes, like, it's it, ain't you, baby, it's not.

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It's never it, and it rarely is. And I've had to be on the other side of those, like decisions with art and stuff too. And it's usually, or be the one to tell people no and stuff with it, or to move stuff around, and it's, I'll tell you guys something, some little pro tips, just like, this is different. This is different than what we envisioned. Or like anybody

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even that's been doing it for a hot minute understands with us exactly, but it is. It's just, just do your own art for you. If you want to make a living with it, you got to detach yourself from it. You have to, or you're going to like to have some problems,

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right? The common example I use is like, you know, you're not Picasso like, they're not looking for, like, your spit, you know? And it didn't take it yet, you know, they're not looking for your style. They're looking for, what the thing of the hang up with style like, right? Yeah, I see so many you said that, yeah, you're so hung up on like, I've got to have my own style, and I've got to, like, no, like, just, like, do some stuff, throw a bunch of things at the wall until, like, something sticks, try different classes, try different mediums. Like, you might be like, missing like, your niche, like your thing, because you're like, I've got to be the best watercolor artist, like I was thinking, or something dumb. Well, we're coming towards the end here. You know, I know you mentioned some goals for 2025 what exciting projects? Things do you have coming up? Well, mainly that sat box excited about that. I do have another workshop coming up with Clark County. Those installations will be, you can check those out. Those will be a few rec centers. The big one will be at Whitney, and that one will be in February, and that one will that one's cool because that'll have everybody who's in that whole group only like a little group show of all the Youth Art, cool stuff going on is that Whitney ranch? I think so. I'm bad with directions. Okay?

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I'm like 98

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but doing art every day, doing art every day, you tell me what's coming

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up. You tell me I'm available, if you feel so inclined, you can give her a call there. And if, if, if someone is looking to give you a call or looking to learn more about you, where can they find you at? You can find me at bagheer. That's B, A, G, E, C, K, a, on Instagram or bagca.com and again, that's how a chicken says my name, bach, bach, Bucha. Just so you remember Bucha,

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all right. Well, that was tight

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co hosts Find us at, I don't know where. I don't know Dan, where can they find us at? You can find us at graffiti park.org,

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or on Instagram or feedy Park. Underscore, LV, all around town, catch us out. I hope that our banter has made your day more beautiful. Do you want to end it with a tongue twister? Get out there and create I think I have one more. Do you just want to do that? Human Torch was denied a bank loan. However, he also was an artist, so he used it to progress his career forward

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11 benevolent elephants.

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Thank you for listening graffiti, Park Radio.

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