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Dan Moloney 0:44
Hello, hi, good. That's good. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good Morrow. Whenever you might be listening. This is Dan and Dan and Miss Anika Jones coming at you. Another episode of graffiti Park radio brought to you by the graffiti Park Foundation, where our mission is to protect progress and promote local artists. Absolutely. How you guys doing

Dan Bulgatz 1:10
today? Stellar. When I was any better, I'd be a twin.

Dan Moloney 1:14
That's a good have not heard

Anika Jones 1:16
that one? Well, it's 100 and like 11 today in Las Vegas. Very, very warm. Yeah?

Dan Moloney 1:22
Mojave, desert, coming at you live, yeah, today we are joined by none other. Mr. Juan, how are you, sir? I'm

Juan 1:29
great. I'm happy we're indoors in the air conditioned room.

Dan Moloney 1:33
It is very nice in here. We're coming at you a new studio here at the KU NV graffiti Park, radio co lab. We got, we're no longer at the kidney amoeba bean. We got ourselves a nice little U turn of a table going on one. Have you been on a podcast or been interviewed before

Juan 1:52
I have done quite a few. Oh,

Anika Jones 1:55
I'm lucky to say, Oh, lucky to say, Are you disappointed already?

Juan 2:00
Like, it's funny because I I've gone to, like, doing anything, like in studios, and I'm just like, What am I doing here? And then it's like, I'm doing in, like, somebody's like, bedroom, and I'm like, and it feels very gorilla. And it's just like, at the end of the day, I'm like, being able to be in a place where I could just share my story, and somebody actually wants to listen. I'm like, That's cool, because I'm pretty sure I bore my wife

Dan Bulgatz 2:18
and kids a lot. Yeah, I love it happens over time, you know. So

Dan Moloney 2:23
speaking of which, go ahead and start from the top. Wherever you want to start. Tell us a little bit. Tell us our audience, a little bit about your background, and we'll go from there. We'll dive in.

Juan 2:32
Well, let's see. I was a was born in, born in Tijuana, Mexico, and when I was in about third grade, my family decided to move to San Diego. So when I first moved to San Diego, I was already involved in, just in art. I I learned to speak English before I moved to United States by watching Saturday morning cartoons. Being so close to San Diego, we would get the, you know, the TV station. So it was like a lot of Disney channels, a lot of like, Saturday morning cartoons. So it was like, you just watch them. You just repeat them over and over again. So my dream was to go to United States and become an animator. So it was funny. The first time I went to United States, we got our passports. I, you know, we crossed the border. The first thing I saw was at McDonald's. My parents got me, like, a happy meal. And I get on the trolley and we're going to where I was going to go to school. And as I'm going on the trolley, it pulls up to, like, this one bridge, and I look to my left, and I see just my first, like, big burner piece graffiti, like, I've never seen this before. I've seen tags on the wall, but I've never seen a production like this. And I remember asking my sister, and we spoke very little, she spoke very little English. And I was like, what is that? Like? Who did that? And she was like, in her broken, like, English. She was like, I think they're called tigers, so I thought they were called tigers, and that was, like my first real introduction. It went from like, just liking cartoons to realizing there's art in the world. Yeah. So to me, from that moment on, I still wanted to be an animator, but being in Southern California, a, you know, growing up, I was the perfect kid, from like third grade to like seventh grade. But as soon as puberty hit, and, you know, just being a little like teenager, kid, I started getting involved in graffiti cruise. So it was something that, to me, it felt great just sitting around the neighborhood and just with sketchbooks and Black Books and just, that's how you made friends. You know, after a while, like that kind of life got me in a lot of trouble, unfortunately, in California, and eventually we moved to Vegas, which I was happy, because during that time, there was a, there was a period in California where they had a three strike rule that if you got caught or doing graffiti at least three times, you get sent in, like you're going to prison. So my family was like, Yeah, we're not doing that. So we moved to Vegas, and then I came out here during the summer, and I realized it's way too hot to be out there anyways, but my dream of being a cartoonist always wanted, you know, always wanted to come true. Eventually, after high school, I went to school in animation for animation in Arizona, where I got my degree in animation came out here, and I got another degree in graphic design in the Art Institute here in Las Vegas. Eventually, I started getting into more of like tattooing, and I actually got my. Apprenticeship, went through that, and I started tattooing for quite a bit. I ended up working in a few shops around town, and eventually, like as much as I love tattooing, I have such an old school mentality that I felt that if I didn't live that and breathe that every day, I shouldn't be touching other people's skin. So because I grew up with that mentality, and I was taught in a traditional way. When an apprenticeship, I decided that I'm just going to walk away from tattooing. But I learned so much in it with itself, because my style is very cartoony. I love straight lines. I love everything looking like it's a real life cartoon in life. And when tattooing came around, it helped me, because I was doing like, I was tracing flash sheets, you know, 1020, sheets per day, you know. And I was like, it improved my line work, and improved, like, just being able to work with customers. So, little did I know that everything that I was doing, all these jobs that I was going along in my life, eventually was going to teach me to have a career in art, being able to sell art, being able to, you know, talk to customers, talk to clients, you know, come to a decision on a design. You know, a lot of times you come in and people don't have the greatest idea for a tattoo. You kind of have to talk to them and be like, this would work well with the body. This will work better this design. And that is something that I took and I learned to eventually create a ring, a brand that is focused around my characters that I've created, you know, my own little cartoon characters and focusing that brand on promoting positive mental health and self care for kids. So eventually, I wanted to stop being the person that created destructive things like vandalizing and taking the art into a form where I could expand it into a world that speaks on mental health and self care and self love, but not from a perspective of, like, it's just this boring, like thing that doesn't really affect the community or affects minorities or all these things. Like, I wanted to involve all the things that I've learned from tattooing, graphic design, animation, you know, it's like story writing to create a brand that focuses on just that message that shows like Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street Blues Clues brought to a generation. And I'm a, you know, I was created by that world, and now I want to take that torch that all those people left behind, and I'm in this new journey for the, you know, since, pretty much since before COVID, to, in my own way, be my own weird mixture version of Mr. Rogers meets Blue's Clues needs Bob Ross along with Dr Seuss, and I'm lucky to to do that today. You know, I I write and illustrate children's books for mental health. I'm a suicide crisis prevention counselor, a teen prevention counselor. I was on the board of directors for the National Alliance of Mental Illness, and I do that just so I could do the art better and incorporate this whole mixture that I call a cluster pop of my style, because it's a mixture of tattoo cartoon through the animation, 3d animation, traditional graffiti, you know, pop surrealism, and everything that I just absorbed as a child, to now be able to create this art that I love in order To connect with the younger generation and to the inner child that's inside of all of us. I love that. So in a like, a weird kind of breakdown, you know, and a bunch of stories in between, that's kind of what I'm doing, what I've been and what I'm trying to get to, that's

Dan Moloney 8:12
awesome, man. I mean, there's a lot to unpack there. One of the things that stands out to me about what you were just talking about in that message is, when it comes to mental health, it's kind of like a double edged sword, because nowadays it's like people, more and more people are talking about it. It's not like behind closed doors, like, historically, you know, obviously Dan and I, the, probably the youngest in the room, and so we've that's, we've been lucky enough to be exposed to that for a lot of our life, is that it's okay to talk about those things. But it seems like, you know, we have, like, you know, men's mental health month, I think is June, or was May or and so it's like, but it seems like now it's so ubiquitous. It's like, almost lip service. Like, it's like, you know, you talk to talk, but what you're talking about is walking the walk, actually. And like, applying what you really set out as to be in a cartoonist or an animator, but then taking that vision and kind of finding your mission behind it in that process. And I'm sure there's a bunch, what have you found to be the most like challenging part of that journey, from, you know, first coming to to the US and then to where you're at now, along that ride,

Juan 9:20
honestly, it's it has been overcoming the trauma that I lived with from a child to that I still struggle with today. And it doesn't matter how much I worked or how much I broke my back or how much I studied, you know how much success I would have, or these opportunities that come around, nothing's gonna last if me, myself, have a very poor self portrait of myself. You know, if I don't really, truly believe that I deserve these amazing things that happen in my life that come from the hard work that I'm putting in, not because, you know, I'm trying to reach a level of status. It's more because. Because I honestly am so tired of seeing the world hurt, of seeing children lose their families. I'm just tired of the anger between one side and another that I just decided, because I've dealt with so much pain and so much suffering with my life, that I just wanted to be that cheesy guy that just promotes love. I may not look that way, but I had to learn that as I was going in that goal, and I was helping, and I was pushing through it, I was still struggling, and still struggle with things, and is understanding and realizing that my biggest hurdle will be me, as much as I need to be my biggest fan and my biggest supporter because of everything and all the lies that I believe that I was told growing up now, those voices aren't around technically, but they're still in my head, and it's something that I struggle with and fight with every day, and being able to now move forward and help others is the one thing that's helping me and understanding and having faith in myself that, you know, it's like, nobody's perfect, and everybody's just trying their best. And I have two daughters now, and I'm trying to break the cycle of the things that I went through at a young age, and now being able to do it in this way, I finally feel like I'm on the right path. And the biggest thing that I had to get over, and I'm still fighting to get over, is my own fear.

Dan Bulgatz 11:16
Can I ask is for artists struggling with that and struggling to find their own mental health or their own path. Do you have any pieces of advice for them that would be helpful on their journey?

Juan 11:29
It's hard to explain to people how simple it is, but how difficult it can be, and it's being truthfully, 110% honest with yourself and in the art that you create, there's so many times where I would create a piece of art that I think that's what needed to be seen, or society wants to see, or it's popular right now, and my biggest like North Star, when I ask, you know, questions or advice when it comes to my art, has always been my daughters and you know, because a child's innocence gets straight to the point. Yeah, so I realized that me creating art and being honest when I was the most honest, when I didn't think anybody was going to understand it, that piece was the most popular. I would show it to my kids, and I would see a reaction right away in their face, whether it be like smiling or sadness, but they had a reaction. It's when I did a piece, and I'm like, Oh, this one's cool. And then I show it to them, and, yeah, it's cool, but they're all just like, there's no emotion, right? No connect. So every time, everything I try to do is focus on that inner child within all of us, and I'm like, if I could touch that kid, then when an adult sees this, it's just gonna hit him in a way that it never has before, right? And I know that all of my art won't connect with everybody, but all I need is just for one or one or two pieces to make you feel something. And to me, it's like the only way that anybody could achieve that is avoiding the hype, avoiding what they think others want to see, and just be brutally honest. Because nobody else can tell the story of how you feel besides you

Anika Jones 12:58
absolutely that. When did you decide I'm gonna make this something that's my everyday, part of my life and career? This is what I'm this is what I'm gonna dive my entire life into third grade.

Juan 13:10
And the thing is, I even have proof about that, because when I moved to United States, like in the first grade, that we were out here, like I remember there was this packet that my mom still has, and it's laminated, because I laminated it, and it said, What do you want to be when you grow up? And I drew myself in front of an animation table with a circular like drafting board, stuff like that. I didn't even know what it was. And from that moment on, I made a promise to myself, and it's written down, and I still see it. And it's to never grow up and to always it was so simple. As a kid, I was like, never grow up. Always watch cartoons. And to this day, I am such a fanatic when it comes to anything like his. I'm a historian when it comes to animation, just the history of it because of traditional Disney animation to Japanese animation to new 3d animation. And it was like, I just became obsessed with it, and something like that to me was I couldn't live without it, and I knew that that was going to be my entire life. And I never gave myself a choice to not do anything else. I knew that it was going to have to do with art. It didn't matter whether it was animation, whether it was graphic design, tattooing, whatever it was, it had to be a creative outlet. And I, you know, when I was, I think, about 22 years old, and I was already getting tattooed, I kind of just took the risk, and I just kind of decided, hey, I'm just gonna put this tattoo on my neck, close to my face. I'm not gonna give myself a choice. And it's funny, because again, another thing that I'm obsessed with is documentaries, and one of them that with Travis Barker, that did a great documentary of him, DJ, am he kind of mentioned that he was like, yeah, the reason I put that tattoo on my throat is because I didn't want to give myself a choice, like I was going to make it as a drummer. So it's a lot of risk in life that I had to take that, being one of them, quitting a full time job to become a full, you know, full time artist while being married with a kid, another one away. It's definitely scary. Things, but I felt that if I didn't make those choices, then I would have never been able to fulfill that dream of that little kid that said, you will always have to do something with art. And

Dan Moloney 15:11
so I have to ask, What's your favorite cartoon? Yeah, it

Juan 15:15
jumps. It really does, because I started with just like I said. It was the Disney ones. It was like Care Bears. It was like gummy bears, you know, Ducktales, tail spin, like all these cartoons. And then growing in eight, growing up in 80s, you know, a lot of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and, you know, just that entire style. That's why I'm obsessed with toys, toy design. And I'm blessed to design my own toys today, you know, so being able to do that, I'm, I'm a product of an 80s, 90s like mentality, with a 2000 spin and, you know, it's like, but my first cartoon obsession had to be the Simpsons. Oh, yeah. And I again, another historian for that, like, I love watching The Simpsons. But then it's started eventually going into like, depending what age I was, you know, as I got older, there was, like, darker cartoons. Now I look back, I love everything, I enjoy everything, but I'd have to say my favorite cars tune right now, and it'll be hard to beat in the future. It would probably be blue be bluey. Okay, I love that. That's awesome. You know? It's like, the messages that a lot of people is like, Oh, these great stories for kids. I was like, the thing about my art and the thing about bluey is that these are messages and stories that are for kids, but are geared for adults. You know, it's like a lot of people. Like, I see comments of parents going around and being like, oh, it's like those dogs, like, set up, set a really high bar that we can't and I sit there knowing that I broke the the trauma, you know, chain with my with my kids, and we have that kind of like relationship that, you know, blue and his parents have, and band and stuff like that. So to me, I'm like, these shows teach you how to become a parent, you know, in a great way, because I didn't have that support growing up. I am lucky that my daughters are there and believe in me and trust me and are openly and comfortable with me, but it didn't come easy, and it was because I was able to be open with them. So cartoons like Bluey, you know, bring such a beautiful message to not just a child, not just to a parent, but just as a person in general, that gets past the ego, gets past all that thing, and just see each other as human beings. And such a beautiful cartoon. That's awesome.

Dan Moloney 17:22
Yeah, I have a wiener dog. And little kids always point. They're like, it looks like a sausage dog from Blue Snickers. Yeah, they're always calling. So we get lots of bluey shout outs.

Juan 17:32
And I was like, like, I study in the last few years, when I really took the turn from being just another artist, because I was just focusing. At one point, I want a cool streetwear brand. I'm going to do this. And the this, and the other thing, and I'm kind of going to talk about my mental health, but I'm gonna do this. It wasn't till, like, the first time around the COVID happened, and, like, there were riots happening in Vegas, that I kind of decided that moment I'm gonna switch from just creating a cool streetwear brand with cool toys and design, and I'm gonna focus on speaking about kindness and love and empathy, because it was so scary out there with my kids seeing what was going on. And I'm like, as an artist, what can I do? And I'm sitting I turned everything off. We sat down and watched Mr. Rogers, and I realized that the cute songs that he promotes teaches us love, kindness and empathy to each other and to ourselves. And that's when everything switched. So I'm like, okay, so I have this graffiti, kind of cartoony style, like kind of anime style, you know what? I'm just gonna put blend everything together and write these simple poems that teach a lot love and kindness, and I'm gonna put it out there, and that's what I'm gonna do. So to me, it's just a beautiful thing that I get to get I get to do that now

Dan Moloney 18:36
that's awesome, man. So tell us a little bit we're familiar. You have some different characters and whatnot. So tell us a little bit about those characters, and not only the work that you're doing with those, but how they kind of bleed into other mediums, maybe murals or other work with clients, that sort of thing. Yeah.

Juan 18:52
And when I started out in First Friday, it was close to over, close to 2122 years ago, and it was I had been in Vegas for a few years already. Kind of moved to Vegas in 1998 so I learned about First Friday because a friend that I was going to art institute in said, Hey, what might even a show? I'm having a show in a small gallery at First Friday I went out there. I'm like, I don't know how to put on a show. I don't know how to I was just gonna donate a piece or something. So I put up a piece up there. I didn't know what to do. I got a piece of paper, markers and pencils, and then I glued it to the back of a canvas and just hung it up. There for 50 there for 50 bucks an hour into it. It sold. And I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. And they're like, why don't you do First Friday? So I reached out First Friday at the time, it was free, but you had to talk to this lady named Cindy Funkhouser, and she was this amazing lady that kind of just saw my work. They're like, I'll give you a booth next month for free, but you got to show in my gallery first. So long story short, I was showing her gallery. Came at the end of the month. All the pieces were gone. I set up at First Friday, and I was just doing cartoon characters as a, you know, growing up like admiring 80s car like 80s graffiti and 70s graffiti from New York, you know, and study in that world and seeing how the characters made such a big part in that. I wanted to. Create characters like I was in, you know, I was in a gang in San Diego, but I wasn't like doing out like criminal activities, besides just doing characters like my, you know, that's what I wanted to do. So it was always driven to me to create something that I could express my feelings through. So eventually, after doing all these designs and all these characters, an artist that I admired named Danny Roberts from Las Vegas. He came to my show and he said, I like your stuff. It's really clean, but I don't remember anything. When I leave, you're not saying anything, and I wasn't. I was just doing little characters. She's like, try something. Do one show where you have one reoccurring character and make it personal. If it doesn't work, it's just one show. Don't worry about it. So I turned around like, what am I gonna do? So I grew up watching, you know, Bugs Bunny, watching Roger Rabbit. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do almost like a kid inside of a bunny onesie with a face mask with two holes, and I'm gonna just talk about what I'm dealing with, whether it be me being married or me trying to make it as an artist and like, just this, fears and anxieties, whatever it is. And I went super personal. I did the show. At first I was like, nobody's gonna get it. By the end of the night, the entire show sold out. And then I did another show with a little bunny character in LA and a gallery cola loose, which is a huge gallery in the lowbrow world. And you know, some of the biggest artists in the world show there. And I go there, I get accepted to this giant group show. I submit six pieces, six pieces sold. It was in the heart of Hollywood. I just, like, I saw Robin Williams in the gallery when it happened. It was insane, like, like, Francis being Cobain, like, you know, his daughter, like she was there. So it was insane for me to be in this world. And now this character and these people are, like, liking it. And eventually a lot of people were asking, this is my space days, like, what's the bunny's name? And I kept calling it the bunny, and I put out a contest, like, give me a name. If somebody gets it, like, if I like it, I'll give you a painting. And names are terrible. And eventually I realized that I wanted to give it the name Felipe. And the name Felipe came from when I was four years old. My mom was pregnant, about nine and a half months pregnant. Months pregnant, about nine months pregnant, I mean, and she wouldn't play with me, and my siblings wouldn't play with me, and I was just being ignored. And I remember I got mad, and I jumped on her stomach. Unfortunately, my brother passed away for other reasons, but as a kid, I took that blame within myself. So my little brother became my, you know my imaginary friend, my angel, so whenever I had trouble, I talked to him. So I was like, Okay, what if I named this bunny Felipe? Because what if one day I actually get a toy and ends up in a store, like, hot topic, and my brother's Mexican name will be on a box that says Felipe. And about 10 years after that, it happened, so being able to give tribute to my little brother through Felipe, and now creating from that a family of characters to expand it. And that's why I created my brand Nino bunny world. And the best way to explain it is, if Felipe is my Hello Kitty, Nino bunny world is my Sanrio, and I have a world of characters that all represent different things in the mental health spectrum, whether it be anxiety, depression, PTSD, there's a whole family of characters, and it went from painting him in murals, doing him in T shirts, working with like licensed companies, to, you know, put my character in, you know, and whether it be their drinks or in their T shirts, or, you know, their toys, to me, am I being able to do that through that character and every character represents somebody that came into my life, that's the best way that I could pay tribute to them. But I don't have to, like, limit myself, to like just doing people, because I felt that that was too limited, especially when you're trying to reach children. So being able to soften the blow like a whole Spoonful of Sugar thing, it's like, to me, it's so much more fun being able to create these characters and give them a life, even though their life may not be perfect, right?

Dan Moloney 23:45
And I think that's like, why it's so powerful is because life isn't perfect. So it's like the the realness of characters, experiencing things that you experience in real life lends to the authenticity of like, what you're trying to do, you know, at least as a as an outsider, like expressing that to you. You know,

Juan 24:04
hearing that from you one of my my books that sells the most. It's called I'm not okay today. And it's literally a little child waking up and feeling like they're in a funk. And when a child's mind starts to spiral and they think that maybe, you know, what's wrong with me? Am I broken? Other kids aren't as sad as like, why aren't they dealing with this? You know, it's like, maybe my parents get a better child that's not as messed up as I am. Like, I know that a child, if you don't tell them that it's going to be okay, their mind spirals in an amazing way. But I wish that when I was a little kid, somebody would have told me, like, it's going to be okay. You know, this will pass. I know that it hurts right now, and it's perfectly fine to feel those things, yeah, you know. And as an you know, as a little kid, as a little boy in Mexico, that didn't work, I was either too emotional. They were just playing with me, or I can't take a joke. So then you kind of hold it in, and then you become an adult that has been holding it in. And then you wonder why the ages of late, 20s, 30s or four. 30s, we suffer with so much problems because we just held everything in so every my mission now is just to be able to open that conversation between the kids and the adults, because too many adults talk at children and not with children, you know. And I being able to express what I do through my art is something that I feel that is a gift, and it's also my duty to help others with the talents I do have. You know, I might not be the most talented artist out there, but I know what I can bring, and I just try to be a good helper, as Mr. Rogers wanted us to be. Yeah, you know what you guys do with graffiti Park? That's why, like in the beginning, like I reached out, because, you know, being if I had that support, then I wouldn't have been, you know, getting in trouble. You know, if I had that place where I can go paint, I wouldn't have to be jumping walls and on two strikes, right? You know? And it's like I am in a position right now that I have a house in a pretty nice area. I, you know, my kids have anything they need. You know, it's like we're healthy, the bills are paid, and I'm doing it based on the art that I'm working on. So I tell my kids I'm like, not a lot of people get to do right, like, and I need to remind myself that that it is a blessing that I get to do this. But I want to be able to let other kids know out there that they could do that too,

Dan Bulgatz 26:18
exactly. Well, I think you're doing a great job is like in showing that to other artists, that by staying true to yourself, by finding what makes you happy, and what the art that is that you enjoy creating actually translates into having material things that you can literally say, like, oh yeah, my ideas, my my hard work. It's all went to that being created now. And so I want you to know, like, for us, it's very awe inspiring to see is like, the, of course, all of your artwork that you produce is professional grade, but then we talk about, you know, the T shirts, the clothing lines, the small characters, the toys, the at foundation fest, he had fans. We caught up with him at EDC, and he's handing out holographic glasses that are going out. And I just want you to know like it's so inspiring to other people, and I think that's why it lends to staying true to yourself, and why we're so impressed with everything that you produce. Because, yeah, I mean, you're an amazing artist and very talked about here in Las Vegas, but you're an even cooler person. So thank you for sharing your story with us, and I'll be the

Dan Moloney 27:18
first to say that I am very sad that we have three minutes in this episode. Yeah, we got to bring one back on there. So there's so many rabbit holes, no pun intended, that I want to jump down with you, man. But if, if people are interested in finding you or taking a look at some of the work that you're talking about, where, where can they find you?

Juan 27:38
So, yeah, best way to find me, which I'm always on, I'm always very active, is on Instagram. So at Nino bunny and i, b, u, n, i, and then my website, Nino bunny world. Currently, I'm working on new project, mostly just the book stuff, and probably a new website coming around. But right now, Nino bunny world is where you could find

Dan Moloney 27:55
me. Awesome. So you heard it here first, folks, if you are interested Nino bunny on Instagram or Nino bunny world.com, yes. Is that? Right? Awesome? Awesome? Yeah, I got a bunch of questions, but it's been a pleasure chatting with you, Juan, every time we sit down, as Dan said, get to see more layers of you as a human and that's just how you know. That's why we do Yeah, we work with artists. We do fun murals, but it's all about the people we get to work with. So we appreciate you taking some time to come and thank you and sit down with us today. SONiKA Jones over

Anika Jones 28:26
there, I mean, just the artistry and the activism and just the awareness that you're bringing to the community is so huge and so beautiful, and giving that innocence back to a time where students may have or young adults have lost that, or people have forgotten that their children, I think you've honored them and your brother in a beautiful way. I loved your story. Thank you so very much. No, thank you guys.

Dan Moloney 28:49
Yeah, absolutely. That's unfortunately all the time we have here for today's episode, fitting episode for June. Very excited for our listeners, viewers to watch. Tune into this if you're interested. You know where to find. You know bunny. You can find us at graffiti park.org, or on Instagram at graffiti Park, underscore, LV, if somehow you cannot find Nino bunny, you ask us, we'll get you in the right direction. It's been a pleasure. My co hosts and Mr. Juan, thank you so much for sitting down with us.

Juan 29:19
Thank you. You

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